World History Blog: Wacky American Separatists

I really couldn’t have said it better. Trying to replay history for pro-royalists in Hawai’i by claiming a military occupation is ludicrous on it’s face. Hawai’i functioned as an independent Republic from 1893-1898, and despite of any qualms about it’s inception, it’s legitimacy is unquestionable – it survived both a hostile U.S. president, as well as a violent attempt at counter-revolution. It legitimately petitioned for and recieved annexation by the United States, as was desired by King Kamehameha the III in 1854.

You could just as well claim that New York was still a sovereign colony of the Britain, and that it had been under illegal belligerent occupation by a puppet government (The U.S.) of France which aided and abetted the 1776 revolutionary war.

The really sad part about all of this is that while poverty and poor education continue to be problems in Hawai’i, these people are busy trying to replay 1893 and 1898.

3 Thoughts on “World History Blog: Wacky American Separatists

  1. Lana on 11/20/2005 at 9:28 am said:

    “The really sad part about all of this is that while poverty and poor education continue to be problems in Hawai’i, these people are busy trying to replay 1893 and 1898.”

    It’s probably because they nana i ke kumu which we are taught by our kupuna which is to look to the source. That is what many do.

    I wonder why you try to prevent them from going to the source or sources of the problems of today? My theory is that you do not like it when other Hawaiians discuss it because it makes you feel uncomfortable that other people are dissatisfied. Is that why you try to substantiate Ken Conklin’s racism as well as Thurston Twigg-Smiths’? Is it partly because when they address an issue or issues it makes YOU feel uncomfortable?

  2. It’s probably because they nana i ke kumu which we are taught by our kupuna which is to look to the source. That is what many do.

    So your kupuna taught you that the reason why there is poverty in hawaii is because of 1893? Did they also teach you that the ali’i pre-1778 had a strict class based society, and that the roots of subjugation and poverty came from there? Remember the Kauwa?

    I’m sorry, but your kupuna were terribly short sighted if they blamed the introduction of democracy to the islands as the reason for any kanaka maoli poverty. The kanaka maoli dominated the Territorial Legislature till the 1930’s, and to this day there are rich kanaka maoli trustees and power brokers in hawaii.

    If indeed your kupuna taught you to look to 1893 as the source, they were short sighted. If they just taught you to look to the source in general, you’re being short sighted.

    I wonder why you try to prevent them from going to the source or sources of the problems of today? My theory is that you do not like it when other Hawaiians discuss it because it makes you feel uncomfortable that other people are dissatisfied. Is that why you try to substantiate Ken Conklin’s racism as well as Thurston Twigg-Smiths’? Is it partly because when they address an issue or issues it makes YOU feel uncomfortable?

    I’m not trying to prevent anyone from going the source, but I WILL correct people who have decided upon the wrong source. My theory is that you do not like it when others repudiate your racist views and it makes you uncomfortable when they are challenged.

    The issues of poverty and poor education and poor health care are not ones that are race based – they are economically based. What we should be doing is working to help ALL the poor and uneducated and unhealthy of hawaii, not just one single racial group.

    The source of this problem is not racism – the source of this problem is economics. And the answer is not the racism you support – let me as you a question, in all the time that OHA has existed, has poverty in the kanaka maoli population gone up, or down?

    Give up your reflexive blaming of history for the problems of today. Let’s work together on fixing the problems now, rather than deciding whose fault it is that they are there.

  3. Miland Brown on 11/20/2005 at 7:40 pm said:

    Thanks for the link Jere. I have made several posts relating to Hawaii at my blog and will probably do more in the future.

    I notice a certain person with your name has been busy at Wikipedia correcting articles. Keep up the good work. :]

    Regards,

    Miland

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